Where Does Mirosevic Play?
Milovan Mirosevic arrived at training Tuesday to great fanfare. He's the key to the 2012 Crew's success in a lot of ways. He's a veteran who expected to be control the flow of the offense. He's also a goal scorer in a midfield that doesn't score goals. He appears to be the piece of the puzzle that the team has missed since 2008.
Talking with Warzycha yesterday, he was still evaluating where Mirošević would play. He's comfortable in central midfield or behind the striker, but Warzycha wouldn't say where his new signing would play on the field, waiting to see how he would interact with the players on the team.
That won't stop me from speculating. The staff is hoping he's the type of player to control the tempo of the game and also score a lot of goals. His record with Universidad Católica is impeccable, he's scored nearly a goal every two games from his midfield position. The Crew can use that type of firepower from an anemic midfield.
The team setup in 2011, however, had a more conservative central pairing. Emmanuel Ekpo (or Dejan Rusmir) played with Kevin Burns, Danny O'Rourke, or Tony Tchani. Both Ekpo and Rusmir had extensive defensive responsibilities, working with the holding midfielder. It prompts the question of where Mirosevic is best used.
Where Mirosevic plays will dictate how the rest of the team is set up. He has played as a trequarista in a 4-4-1-1 formation or as an offensive minded midfielder in a 4-4-2, sitting behind the strikers. The Crew could certainly use him in either position.
He would certainly be able to indulge his nose for goal as a trequarista. Sitting in the offensive third, he would be able to link up with the single striker while looking to get the wings involved in play. This would also ensure defensive stability as Warzycha could utilize two holding players behind him to free him up to go forward and cover for the advance of the wingers and overlapping fullbacks.
The drawback is that in an advanced position, he wouldn't have as many players to work with as play catches up with him. He would have his strike partner and the trailing wingers to link up with. This setup would seem to slow the pace of attack as he would have to wait for attacking numbers.
Mirosevic's ability to time his runs from midfield and vision on the field are better utilized as the offensive minded central midfielder, paired with a holding mid, like O'Rourke. He could spread the ball around and then move off the ball. It also frees him up to be the trailing attacker as the Crew presses forward, looking for a cut back pass from the wings or ready to clean up on loose balls in the box. Many of his goals come from trailing the play and finding the seam in the defense.
His offensive role in midfield would require greater defensive work from others on the team. His attacking forays would the Crew short of defensive numbers. Eddie Gaven may be a natural choice to tuck in centrally to cover for the inevitable gaps left by an offensive minded player like Mirosevic. The team ideally would have a quick defensive midfielder who can cover a lot of ground. O'Rourke fits that description.
Mirosevic is an outstanding pickup and one that prompts quite a few questions. He's an offensive force in a position that hasn't had one in recent seasons and the coaches need to put him in the best position to influence play. However, he also needs defensive cover. It's unlikely that a single defensive screener would be able to handle covering the entire central midfield. Mirosevic's success, partially, hinges on how well Warzycha finds the balance between defense and offense. He has an entire preseason to figure it out.
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Is American soccer stuck in a 1990s mindset
I enjoyed your story, Patrick. It certainly is an exciting time to be a Crew fan. Visions of a group of talented players all reaching their potential.
Your analysis brings up a quandry I’ve been working through. We watch a lot of EPL, Serie A etc on FoxSoccer. It seems that American soccer is decidedly of the mindset that you bring the ball forward via overlapping wings/always build from the edges etc. Even discussing defensive versus offensive mids kind of illustrates a kind of American mindset.
Watching the world cup, watching the top leagues on FoxSoccer, the top tier teams world wide don’t appear to be thinking this way anymore. The ball is moved up field in the center 46 yards as often, or more often, than the edges. When they are bringing the ball up, there are 2-3-4 players already up around/in the box. You don’t see them knocking the ball around the defenders nearly as much to “switch the point of the attack.” I don’t have any stats, but I’d swear Chad Marshall or Miranda probably lead the Crew in time of possession.
If you watch the top tier clubs around the world, at any given point on the field it seems that at least 8-9 players from each side are within 35 yards of the ball. They play very compact, move forward and backward as cores. I don’t know how to express this eloquently, frustrating. But even setting aside talent, facilities, money available for salary etc etc, there just seems to be a clear dogmatic difference in the schemes between American soccer and the rest of the world. And that is not something that should be explained away by saying how much better the players in those leagues are compared to MLS. Talent can control how you form a team, sure. But theory-wise, how you look to move the ball up, atttacking mindset theory etc isn’t dependent upon your roster.
Are we perhaps stuck in the mindset of two decades ago while the rest of the world has moved on?
I’d be interested in other people’s views on this. Try to leave aside the level of talent etc and look critically at how american clubs are playing versus top level clubs world wide. It seems so clear to me we are playing a different brand of soccer, and that is not due to talent differences. Should we still be talking about attacking mids versus defending or holding mids? More importantly, can we afford to think that way? Or do we need to be thinking more along the lines of we have a block of 6-8 players that move behind the striker(s) and they are equally responsible for playing on both ends of the pitch?
I don’t see why it should matter what the overarching style of football played in this country is compared with the world’s other leagues, and even moreso I don’t see what we could do about it if it were a problem.
If we try to force something to make MLS more like the leagues in the rest of the world it just makes MLS look like they’re desperately pandering rather than trying to be their own entity. J-League is a league just about as old as ours with a similar story, though they have enough support in the country to have two divisions. Watching J-League, you get a very MLS-esque sense that it’s all about the attack from the edges with no regard for defending but they do all right for themselves and in fact I quite enjoy J-League.
MLS is still growing and will be best suited to continue the way it has been going as the league continues to find its own style of play. The rest of the world doesn’t like it or finds it archaic? Screw em, we’re honestly playing almost the same style as the English second division. Just like it’d hurt the league to instantly try and throw pro/rel into the mix this early, trying to force a style change of a league still finding its legs will only cause harm.
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Thank you for your insights, I don’t necessarily think that our options are too far off actually. I don’t think I was recommending that play be focused out wide. I’d prefer if the Crew played through the middle more often. I actually would like to see a 4-2-3-1 type formation that creates an central triangle, keeps possession and allows the wingers to operate more like forward. Warzycha certainly prefers the 4-4-2 of the 90s EPL. It’s hard to work through the middle set up like that, thus the emphasis on the wings for the Crew lately.
My preferred formation would have the occasional high press, forwards playing defense. The Crew used it to devastating effect last year as Renteria and Gaven are especially good at closing down space and pressuring defenders, easing the pressure on the defense. I still think Mirosevic would work best with a destroyer type defensive midfielder and holding midfielder. He would have the free role to create on offense.
I’d also love to see moves build from the back and Marshall have the freedom to bring the ball up a bit before he plays it. He’s a very good passer and is solid on the ball. This would mean that your holding midfielder would be key to this setup. I had hopes that Kevin Burns might be the type of player to be the fulcrum, he could pass, but he was too slow for MLS. Because of the teams limitations at holding mid, both the fullback saw an awful lot of the ball. Miranda, followed by Gardner had the most touches on the team last year. That’s not inherently bad, but it does show a lack of incisiveness from the fulcrum required of a team looking to control possession.
I will disagree regarding overlapping fullbacks. They are a key to how even top teams play worldwide. With more teams moving to inverted wingers or playing narrow formations, fullbacks provide needed width and attacking numbers. They also take up an offensive role by forcing wingers to play defense, neutralizing them offensively. This allows one or even two holding players to stay back with the central defending pair. Barcelona and Manchester United have taken to having Busquets and Carrick respectively drop into central defense with the two center backs. This is because of using fullbacks as attackers first in some cases.
The Crew weren’t set up for overlapping wingers the last couple years. Gaven on the right certainly knows how to cut inside and offer space to Miranda, but Rogers would often stay too wide and close the space for the left back, be it Francis, Balchan, or Gardner. Gardner was the most successful offensively as would drift inside sometimes, creating a slightly odd look for when the Crew was in the final third.
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by Patrick Guldan on Jan 26, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions

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